将信心放在神上， 而不要放在人上。人会让你失望， 而神不会。 神说， 相信他，跟随他。 我们的灵在天上，不要留恋地上。 你说呢? 为何还要为地上的人与事伤心呢? 经上讲教会中不应纷争, 我们都是属基督的. 我们要互相爱对方, 我们做到了吗? 人心若能坦白地放出来给人看, 你敢吗? 若给你选择,让你那80%出来给人看你敢吗? 80%比较美好的你选的出吗?
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21 comments:
it's true that putting your faith onto God, not on man will not disappoint you.
I want to know your understanding of the statement.
Has anything happened in the past ever disappointed you or emotionally scarred you.? I think the answer should be a yes. And it will left the person wondering where is God when they were lonely and vulnerable. now, i have to admit my behaviour on these occasions are quiet self-fish. i think i choose to go against God's wishes and i tried to take control myself on CERTAIN areas of my life. well that just absolutly backfired. so i let out my anger and frustration, which in the end wasn't very helpful to put my faith on God. and of course, i can guess that you will probably tell me to be patient and have faith. no surprises there.
The point i want to ask is,
what would you do if God has ever disappointed you./? would you be like me go against God.?
ps: when i said disappointed i mean TRULY, REALLY disappointed, not when you lost the pocket money to lunch. i mean something significant which might change your behavior.
hoplite
1.Has anything happened in the past ever disappointed you or emotionally scarred you?
-Yes, but God never disappointed me. Nor do I doubt where God is when I am in pain.
2.what would you do if God has ever disappointed you./? would you be like me go against God.?
-I will trust in Him for He is my God.
I would not go against God because I am too little to do so, I don't even think about it.
Psalm 22
My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning?
O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, by night, and am not silent.
Faith is not the denial of reality, nor does it involve repearting a mantra to dispel the doubt. The presence of Psalm 22 in the Bible, right before Psalm 23, reminds us that we have God's permission to express our disappointment. The true God is One you may surely doubt. He is big enough never to be overwhelmed by your anger or surprised by your questions. I do not know what happened to you because you didn't tell us. Whatever pains or injustices you've experienced or witnessed, I do feel sorry. Please look forwards rather than being sorrow and sad. I will still pray for you even you think it is useless.
Hoplite, for a responsible and mature adult, you should learn how to control your anger. As you said you were TRULY, REALLY disappointed and at times you were deeply perplexed by God's dealing with the world. The same sentiment of doubting faith or, perhaps for some people, faithful doubting, can be found elsewhere. But these shouldn't result you to an extreme to against God.
You know we shouldn't and we have no ability. You think our disobedience and arrogance will affect God's emotion? In fact we are able to say No to the ways of the Maker: No to justice and peace; No to marital faithfulness; No to daily human kindness. And it will be the Garden of Eden all over again and the consquences of it are all too plain. But it is not imply that God will forever let us have our own way in the evil expression of our wills. He will step in. He has set aside a day at the End of history when his anger against all the tyrannous acts of men and women will be poured out in full.
TWTL again : God instructed us and provided us two ways to go/live long long time ago. You are part of one stream which you would like to choose to go.
1.Has anything happened in the past ever disappointed you or emotionally scarred you?
-Yes, but God never disappointed me. Nor do I doubt where God is when I am in pain.
-------> easy to be said than Done.<--------------
gee...that was a quick reply to the 1st question. i hope you won't be disappointed in the future. not like me. however,if you will be disappointed, go and read Job.
faith, love and obeidence, all three are needed to live under God. i don't have obeidance as you can see, i'm still in quarrel. but i know my quarrels are useless, because all is predestined, only i don't know what was predestined. i take the liberty at that moment in time to express my inner feelings, because i do not wish to pretend, certainly not from God. i am not mature adult in mentality , because i still whiged like a little child. but , it also shift the responsibility back to the human for choosing the way they want to live. so many people do become preplexed by the fact that at the Same time God is in control and yet we are responsible for the choices we make.
therefore i know that i can't go to an extreme with God, because there is no ground for me to stand on and i probably deserved it. i wasn't confused or puzzled by the way God deals on my situation, but i just don't want to go through the whole emotional process again.
i'm trying to put the past behind me , it takes time.
i still think for you to wasting time on me is useless, so far i don't think it's working.
it's going to be a special day for me tomorrow.
I have a couple of choices
1. get really, really pissed. and pretend to be merry and fine.
2. get really, really pissed. and let it all out.so i feeling a bit better afterwards.
3. start to Live in Denial of pain and loosing the purpose of living.
4. start to complaint that i'm getting old.
5. make a fresh start , by erasing everything from the past.
6. continue my 8 months of slience. sliently wasting away.
hope you make right decision.
what do you mean you hope..???
can't you see i could easily follow the tide and make a popular(bad) decision.
what do you really hope for..?? do you hope because you want something to happen , but you can't make it happen.? i hope that you don't put your heops on me, rather than someone else.................
after all that all you can say is hope, it provokes to perceive that all you can is wait and hope something good is going to happen in the end.
i don't know what to say. (still shaking my head).
you heop me making the right decision, how about i make a fresh start, by forgetting everything(& everyone) in the past. creating a new view on life, a new career and making new friends.
which decision do you hope me to make.?
how would you like to to reveal glory./>?
Romans 8:18-27 ESV
I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has? But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.
In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will.
can you express that in your own language..?
do you understand the text you having been copy&pasting.?
Do not push me to answer all your questions. I am reading a book for you. And I tried my best to explain to you.
Well, not for you.. I am reading one to help my own understanding!
reading a book ..?? which book.?
i'm not pushing you to answer all my questions.
i'm jsut worried that you don't understand the text you having been reading. if you don't understand what you having been reading, then you might not best explain my question.
don't rock the boat.
you don't want to see me pissied off.
I am not a smart person, therefore I may not understand it fully - so I don't want to interpret God's words wrongly.
i'm saying you're dumb person.
at least you're trying to understand it.
not like having forgotten everything, almost every verse down the drain.
i just want you to trying to explain, don't have to be totally correct.
oh.. s*** . i'm saying you're not a dumb person
We should have positive hope not only because of what God promised in the Scripture, but what he has done in the past and how this brings comfort in the present. Read Job again, it shouldn't discourage you.
i'm not saying Job was a depressing book.
i'm loosing my control over anger, because i'm too emotionally involved ...............
i'm loosing my positive outlook..
请把Romans 8 读完, 我刚刚又读了一遍.或者你想读其他的也可以. 我要睡觉了.goodnight.
ok.. i will listen to you this time and had read romans 8.
so God wants to endure what i'm suffering right now in order to glorify Him. and Paul was telling us that God has choosen a group of people to be heirs.
how do i know if i belong to that group....?
i had almost did a backfilp of what i was 8 months ago, surely i live by the flesh, not with the Spirit. does that mean i don not belong to that group.?
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